Baltimore-based artist and designer Elijah Trice returns to talk about growth, storytelling, and painting the everyday with dignity and joy.Since our last conversation in 2022, Elijah has expanded his practice beyond hyperrealistic portraiture to explore themes of childhood memory and creative freedom. We recorded this just after his first solo show, Nothing Else Matters, which followed a transformative residency at Maryland Hall. Elijah shares how his architectural training shaped his painting style, what he’s learning from teaching, and why joy is radical in a world so often defined by struggle.How building furniture sparked a deeper connection to makingUsing vivid backgrounds and saturated color to honor Black eleganceTapping into nostalgia, storytelling, and his inner childThe pros and cons of meticulous planning vs improvising in the studioWhy nothing else matters—except the subject🎧 Catch Elijah’s 2022 episode for more on his early work and evolution as an artist.

If you’ve ever danced your heart out at a sold-out basement party or streamed a late-night DJ set on your phone, you’ve felt the pulse of Kotic Couture’s world. In this episode, Baltimore Magazine’s 2023 Best Local Artist shares how she swapped rap verses for turntables, co-founded one of the city’s most inclusive monthly events, and turned a bedroom-studio experiment into the Prototype album—all while building a fiercely supportive community of fellow Black queer creatives. Embracing vulnerability: lessons learned from emceeing full-hour sets before new audiencesPrototype album deep dive: turning a fearless DIY experiment into a cohesive, locally produced projectCurating intentional spaces: co-founding VERSION—one of Baltimore’s most inclusive monthly parties—and sustaining community through venue closures ​Power of word-of-mouth: why personal referrals and community trust can outweigh big marketing budgetsPandemic pivot: adapting from in-person shows to digital drop-ins and stepping back into a scene transformed by new DJsBroadening impact: collaborations with Black Techno Matters and Liberate DC, plus surprise opportunities in fashion and gallery featuresCatch Kotic Couture's first appearance on the podcast here:  This episode was recorded during a season dedicated to creative growth, transformation, and honoring the foundations that helped build Baltimore’s culture.Photo: 

Ceramic-based artist and educator Ara Koh returns to The Truth In This Art for her second conversation with Rob Lee. Known for her layered clay paintings and material-intensive installations, Ara shares how her practice has deepened through repetition, research, and unexpected cracks—both literal and metaphorical.In this episode, Ara talks about processing wild clay from her travels, the physicality of working with heavy materials, and the importance of fitness in sustaining her studio life. She reflects on inherited discipline, finding freedom through form, and why staying curious—about geology, textures, or even pickleball—is key to her creative rhythm.Highlights include:How a geology book inspired a new body of work built through 100+ clay poursWhat her grandmother’s love of Monet taught her about aestheticsThe unglamorous truth behind art labor—and why she doesn’t mind itUnlearning ceramic rules while teaching them to othersThoughts on burnout, balance, and the meditative value of hot yoga🎧 Want more? Check out Ara Koh’s first interview in the archive—where we talk about her background, early influences, and the foundation of her clay-based work. This interview was recorded in person at Eaton Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Curator, writer, and executive director of the ICA at VCU Jessica Bell Brown returns to reflect on her evolving leadership at the Institute for Contemporary Art at Virginia Commonwealth University. In this conversation, we talk about openness as a strategy, the role of listening in shaping institutions, and what it means to make space for experimentation in times of uncertainty.Jessica shares how porosity, risk, and care shape her curatorial and executive approach—from expanding access beyond traditional art forms to launching chef residencies and community media programs at the ICA. We discuss the influence of her time at MoMA and the Baltimore Museum of Art, the power of contemporary art to respond to crisis, and why joy and curiosity remain central to her vision.Topics Covered:What leadership looks like through the lens of listeningExpanding access to arts beyond galleries and into kitchens and podcastsNavigating risk and limitation in an age of shrinking arts fundingThe evolving responsibility of cultural institutionsThe importance of reflection, care, and creative openness🎧 Explore more conversations like this in our archive. 📍 ICA VCU Website: https://icavcu.org

Guggenheim Fellow, artist, producer, and educator Kokayi returns to unpack the layers of sound, storytelling, and being a vessel for cultural memory.Since our first conversation, Kokayi has pushed deeper into multidisciplinary work—blending sound design, improvisation, code, and community-building. This conversation tracks his reflections on legacy, experimentation, and why he’s wary of institutions that try to own culture. We talk about what’s next, how he stays rooted in practice, and what it means to be free in a creative economy that rewards conformity.Sound as both artform and archival practiceWhy joy is built into his live performance structureNavigating mentorship, freedom, and capitalist frameworksCreating from truth instead of chasing metricsThe importance of protecting your time and your IP🎧 Revisit Kokayi’s earlier episode to hear how his practice has evolved—and where he’s taking it next.SEE A BODY - KOKAYI FROM BLACKNESS & THE INFINITE POTENTIAL WELL