Lanise Howard: Painting, Dreaming, and Embracing Self-Expression

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
Welcome to the truth. It is art. I am your host, Rob Lee. Thank you for tuning in to these conversations at the intersection of arts, culture and community today. Today we have a special guest. Big names only. Today I am super excited to introduce my next guest. She is a dynamic visual artist from Los Angeles, L.A., the City of Angels.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
She's renowned for her captivating work in paint and mixed media, where she delves into narrative, spirituality and hidden histories, creating a unique blend of figurative art with surreal elements. Please welcome the great Lanice Howard. Welcome to the podcast.

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Lanise Howard
Hello.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
I was going to say la la, but I was like nine on. Now we got to go with the gov.

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Lanise Howard
Yeah. Ask me my last last question.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
Okay. I'm here for it. I'm here for it. So, yeah. Thank you for for making the time. And thank you for inviting us, inviting us in for this conversation. And, you know, before we dive, like, super deep, I want to kick things off with a little bit of an intro like I'll get from folks. Look at the artist statement.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
I'll get the online bio, and often there's something missing. Like, you'll find out like, yeah, you know, not only do I paint, but I'm also a boxer. And that's the most important part of what I do. So if you will, could you take a moment and give us, like your bio and your own words?

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Lanise Howard
Yes. Well, my name is Larry Howard. I'm a visual artist here based in Los Angeles. I was actually born in California and I moved to New York or we moved to New York when I was five. And then I lived there inside of 17. And I came up here and California was calling me. I mean, when I graduated, I was going to end up on the West Coast and I came to L.A. I used to model at that time.

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Lanise Howard
So I did that for a few years and I did several other jobs and I ended up starting a school for fashion, I guess because they have this history or this background and modeling. And I always loved doing fashion sketches and drawing bodies and I thought was cool not to get into fashion. So I started in fashion and then I end up taking art as an elective.

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Lanise Howard
And I've always been interested in art since a child, but I just I guess I really didn't think that it was something that was plausible. And yeah, I had a teacher who really pushed me into it and I guess I saw the history that was in 2017 and started going serious with the art. And I guess I've been showing my work now for the past four or five years.

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Lanise Howard
And then yeah, it's been, it's been a journey and I feel like now, you know, my work is changing and there are some things that I'm planning to get into soon, like stepping back into fashion, actually, and in conjunction with my art. I've got to love, I love to see and I love to write, I write poetry. I do a lot of writing that also informs my work, and I'm planning on getting into some sculpture soon.

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Lanise Howard
So yeah, just I just don't I felt 2024 is the year of no minutes to me, and I feel like I'm a multifaceted, you know, a multiplicity. And I want to kind of express that more in my work and in my creativity this year.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
That is that's great. And, you know, being able to as we go through, I think we have the creative thing that we do right? And then, you know, whether it's or whether it's how we approach things, we have the thing that we do. But, you know, we don't want to be stagnant. We want to figure out like, no, no more than, you know, you know, I do this podcast thing, but also, you know, I might paint here and there which which was the thing that I was doing.

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Lanise Howard
Art needs.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
And had this go. I've been podcasting for about 15 years and I had this goal probably about six years ago because I wanted to revisit painting, you know, and I kind of gave it up is one of those things that the same for me. And I got in touch with my parents. I've worn glasses since I was three and I did a mural and I got my glasses covered in paint.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
And, you know, black parents like you, like, what are you what are you doing? What is this Art? What is this? Hey, we got to figure this out. But being able to kind of revisit ultimately is is what I'm getting at. So hearing that was on the horizon. It's not only expanding sort of the the fine art stuff like adding like sculpture and kind of blowing out like what you're doing visually.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
But also revisiting fashion and some of those words for you. That's really cool.

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Lanise Howard
Yeah, I usually give myself, I guess, a prompt in the process of me creating and I try to find the medium that best enables me to express a specific thing. And if I feel like a successful painting, then I'll do the painting. But there's times I'm like, you know, like this idea needs to be expressed through a different medium.

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Lanise Howard
It needs to be expressed through sculpture, it needs to be expressed through a visual, it needs to be expressed through writing. And that's usually the metric that I use to inform. I go about creating. And so I got to a point where I was like, Oh, this, this story needs I need to go into sculpture, I need to go into this to, to offer to expand the universe.

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Lanise Howard
But I feel like I'm creating and crafting. So yeah, it's exciting.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
Expanding the toolkit. I love to hear it. I love to hear it. Um, so if you think back, you know, having, you know, L.A., having New York as part of like your bio, those are vastly different coasts. They both big. They're big on culture, big on respective art scenes. They are different styles that are associated with both of those coasts.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
So thinking back, like, is there something between, you know, being on either coasts that, you know, was like, yeah, this is definitely a touch point. This is definitely in flux in an inflection point of creativity for you. Like was there. I remember back when I was in New York, I saw this this movie and it had this visual in there and I was like, I need to paint that.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
Or, you know, or being, you know, in L.A. And it's like, man, it's sunset or the sunrise, but this looks really cool. I need to get this captured. Is there something that comes to mind for you?

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Lanise Howard
Yeah, a little bit. In New York, I would say it definitely was just the access to museums and, you know, libraries and public institutions. I was really a nerd and and in there and I was I lived at the library, I lived at the museum. I used to go all the time and and just to go to different parts of use that would be there until it closed, basically.

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Lanise Howard
And I was really inspired by the Renaissance, obviously. And I've always loved like Egyptian comedic Nubian culture. And I would visit the museums and look in their whole sections of like Egypt in the Near East or Africa, and just immerse myself into those sculptures and those artifacts. So yeah, I definitely think for New York it was more so that and for L.A., it's definitely been the environment, it's been the environment, the different colors, you know, the sunsets, all the different, you know, trees and the landscapes.

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Lanise Howard
And and I feel like L.A. is just such a diverse city where, you know, New York is a little bit more monotone in a way where it's like New York as New York and L.A. is. There's parts of L.A. that remind you of New York and this weird kind of parallel universe way. And then you have parts of L.A. that make you think you're in Mexico, and then those parts of L.A. that feel like Hawaii and and, you know, you have other parts that just feel quintessentially Californian.

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Lanise Howard
And I think just seeing that on a daily basis and, you know, all those different, I guess, interactions create this kind of melting pot of ideas for me. And I definitely think it's influence, like the color palette. And then for sure, my own studio was downtown and I have these big huge windows and every day was just this beautiful sunset.

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Lanise Howard
And I would I would literally like take pictures of the sunset, like every day in those pictures, those images, those references became they informed a lot of us backgrounds. And yeah, still to this day, I'm always looking at the sky and I love the landscape.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
That's that's great. And we're going to definitely dive a bit more there. So you did mention a moment ago sort of inspirations and influences what have you. So definitely want to dive a bit further into that and but I want to add this sort of like twist to it. I think a lot of times we get inspiration from like unexpected places.

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Lanise Howard
Yeah.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
I could say like, Yo. And even in doing this podcast, I didn't expect that I was going to get annoyed by someone talking ill of Baltimore. And it's turned into me talking with someone that's in Cali who's a really dope artist. I didn't think that was going to be the thing. And, and the inspiration is coming from this this notion of people not having the opportunity to share their story in their authentic way and communities being deemed in a certain way.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
That's the beginning of that nugget. Super unexpected. I got pissed and I was like, I should interview people. That's the way to do it. So in thinking of something that might be sort of unexpected, like you had a response to something as it relates to, you know, creative work is you're, you know, you're, you're blossoming in a sort of multiple directions at this point in your creative journey.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
But thinking about something that was maybe unexpected, like, damn, I didn't think I was going to be influenced and inspired by that. What comes to mind for you that has been a part of the journey?

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Lanise Howard
Well, I guess recently I can talk about the recent inspiration because that kind of, I guess, came out of Will. Seems like it came out of nowhere So recently, other really inspired by the seventies, like the sixties and the seventies. And I think I've always been too old. So what I call myself like an old soul and spirit at the same time, like I have like this duality that exists.

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Lanise Howard
And when I was really, really young, I love to sing. So and it's the love thing. And so I would always listen to, like these old singers from like the sixties and seventies. I remember those would be like, Why are you playing these? Like this? All these, you know, this old music. And so that's always been there. But I think recently with all that they went on, I think my mind has been wanting to rest more in a, a time in which I have this, I guess like nostalgia for even though I wasn't alive.

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Lanise Howard
But I think it's through like my mother recently, my mother's mic went through a lot, so I think I'm holding on to like certain moments of her hearing like old music with me. And also I think like that time was so pivotal for black Americans. I think it was really first were granted like real freedom and so there was like this explosion of culture.

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Lanise Howard
And I think that as time has gone and I've gotten more and more like American input and obsessed with it, and I'm just so inspired by the women in that room in the middle of that time, too. But definitely the women and just how graceful they were and how enigmatic they were. And, you know, they were just like, no nonsense.

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Lanise Howard
They were like they pushed themselves in these doors, in these spaces that no one like them had been in before. And they did it with so much poise and tenacity. And so that's what they're really, like, inspiring me. And I'm kind of emerging it with my stories of like, I guess the my own family history and my own dreams and things like that.

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Lanise Howard
So I think that's something that I guess came out of nowhere because before my work was more so dealing with like this parallel universe and this like kind of a slightly apocalyptic theme, which I'm so really inspired by. But recently it just kind of took up, I guess, a higher level. And I'm like, you know what? This this is what I'm inspired by right now, and I have to make follow it, you know?

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
Yeah. And you key in on something really, really big like, you know, we're coming up on and, and what this summer really will be the 60th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act. So you know, it's like 1864, you know, And so definitely there's alignment. And, you know, when I go back and I definitely connect, you know, the sort of cusp Aquarius Capricorn thing, you know, gang gangbang.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
But I definitely where you have those moments of like I wasn't around for this, I shouldn't know about this. But then you're like, Oh no, I do, I do. And I'm really inspired by this. And I get a lot of juice from this and energy. And, you know, when I'm doing research for questions, what have you in and maybe this is bad, but I find like sometimes we we do things in a certain way.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
You know, we might ask a question in a certain way or approach things in a certain way. I'm like, Nah, I need to go back 20, 30, 40 years to see how I was approach there and actually get inspiration there because it's so nothing feels like really new. Now, granted, that's super old, but it's still like something worth revisiting, whereas now it's kind of watered down I guess is what I'm getting at.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
As we get further away from from source, if you will.

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Lanise Howard
Yeah.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
So if for the for the folks that are under up then unfamiliar, like how would you, you know, talk about like your work and sort of like what are the key characteristics, themes, traits you mentioned sort of the otherworldliness that you like, the sort of that, that hard love that's happening. So for the better that are undead, to give them the rundown, like what could they be looking for when they're seeing like your art, experiencing your art?

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
Like, you know, some folks may say yes, absolutely about color. I see color in your work, by the way. It's a dark color. I like the color. So, you know, tell the folks like, really, what is your your work about?

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Lanise Howard
So I would say firstly that my work is storytelling usually, and I press it in a layered way. I also often think of the work of like a multi linear narrative. So I have like this overarching narrative that is really like the universe that my work lives and which is the universe that I created and I'm still developing.

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Lanise Howard
And then there's like these stories that are weaving through that universe, and those stories often are related to our own stories in this world. So I often think of my work as I'm not. This world is like a parallel universe. And so it's intersecting from like my dreams, forgotten histories and kind of the in-between moments. So ask and try to connect, I guess, like these in-between moments in the paintings like before an action or, you know, in between, like these, I guess that I'm looking for in between these apexes in the story.

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Lanise Howard
So yeah, I feel like it's, it's always evolving to like now there is that otherworldliness that always, I think permeated in my work because I think at heart I'm a surrealist and I was really inspired by a lot of surrealist painter. And so there is that surrealist quality, but it's not overtly there. It's more like nuanced in its approach where you have to kind of you feel it and you feel that energy, but you have to look into it and kind of question things.

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Lanise Howard
I want it to be not a surface level. So I want people to kind of look at the paintings and maybe they'll get a surface feeling from it or they'll get the gist of it. But then I want them to look at it more and then start connecting the dots with other paintings and past work and, you know, because it's all like they're all kind of in this universe together, you know, the universe is our universe is huge.

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Lanise Howard
You know, you have galaxies have different now, you have local groups, you have all this. So it's like each story is kind of like a branch and that universe and this one, even though it's it seem like a hard left, there's a track with it that connects to the previous work. And I think that's something that I'm trying to how much I want to take the training wheels off because I kind of in the past, it's like a hold on to that last story.

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Lanise Howard
I was thinking of that and now I'm trying to approach it in a way where I'm not consciously thinking about it as much and more so creating what I'm inspired by. And because I'm creating it and I created this other universe, it's just going to connect anyways and I'll connect somehow.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
And you got to trust in that where in in doing this, I started off this, this part of being in Baltimore, right? And when I started branching out and doing other communities because I think, you know, it's about communication. It's not just one place, right? And I'm bringing me and bringing this sensibility and, you know, it goes we overthink everything.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
We're in art. We live in our heads.

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Lanise Howard
And know.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
And I remember getting some good feedback from someone who's like, you know, like a mentor in a radio space. And he said this key thing to me, what I think aligns with what you were describing. He was like, You know, if you're doing this, let's say I was going to Austin at the time, Austin, Texas, and he was like, you know, the people that get what you're doing and like what you're doing, they're going to understand it.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
They're going to follow you, follow you, because it's still part of the and I mean, use your words, the larger universe.

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Lanise Howard
Hear it.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
That's sort of the thing. And for folks that it's almost a Jay Z thing, I guess, you know, you want to give all those whatever and being able to broaden based off, you know, one's interest level and what they're interested in doing. This is where my work is naturally going. And you can see the threads that connect to earlier work and that will connect to future work.

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Lanise Howard
Yeah, and you can't be too risky or you can't live in fear because I feel the collectors are great and we appreciate them and you know, they appreciate hours that the work. I am humbled to have people that care about more. However I think I'm still I'm telling the story and I have to take my you know provenance in that and I have to just tell myself, okay, I'm guiding the story and I can't be too focused on like, oh, well, people understand it because, you know, like my previous show that I just recently had was it was really, really deep and it didn't necessarily translate.

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Lanise Howard
And as much sales as my previous shows. And I feel like I had to get out, though. I had to you know, it's about the afterlife. It was a lot of, you know, and it was about death and rebirth. And you have paintings with caskets in it and things that I'm like, okay, maybe celebrities want to put like a big casket in the middle of their house or whatever.

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Lanise Howard
But I had to do what was I was inspired by. And I feel like in a way that was like the death of the old narrative. Now, that was back. It was like and it was the other things dealing with my family, stuff that was happening. And I was dealing with a lot of life, you know, because it was inspired by things that were happening.

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Lanise Howard
But I at when things happen, I try to investigate and find like a, a bigger, more I guess I try to understand why it's happening. And I think that show helped me have some closure with the idea of death and life and rebirth. And then just also like giving death to things that we no longer then no longer service within ourselves.

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Lanise Howard
And so it had like multiple layers to it. But sometimes, you know, everyone's not going to be living where you're living in your head and in your space then in and that's okay at home as well. Sometimes, you know, people might have to catch up with that one or, you know, it might not hit automatically. It may take a while to hit or, you know, but you just have to do what is calling you.

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Lanise Howard
And so now I'm in this space where because I had that show, because before that it was like every show was doing that well. And then, you know, it was almost like when I had that show that didn't do as well. It helped me to, like, not care as much because I'm like, you know what light there's no there's no telling what like people are going to resonate with.

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Lanise Howard
So you didn't have to deal with to have to you and hope that, you know, people resonate with it and they're inspired by they enjoy it. They they get something out of it, but you can't overthink it. And it's really, really hard. But I've been trying to isolate, too. I think hiding the noise is important too, because I think online we just get caught up in so many other things and see it.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
It's the people that it's supposed to hit when it's supposed to hit them, like and I know we we have this thing like, you know, for you know, for some artists, it might be sales, it might be acclaim, it might be sort of press. For me, it's downloads. It's like, man, it's only how far I've come on that.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
And, you know, but the thing with it, it's like if you're doing it right, if you're doing it honestly, you're doing it making work that you feel and that. And I think we got to a little bit to this even before we started recording even work that feels like sort of fearless, like I'm not being encumbered by media.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
This is what people want. It's like, No, no, this is what I want.

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Lanise Howard
Shake the table a little bit. Like I've been telling myself I love the body. I love the body, I love painting the body. I love drying the body. And, you know, nudity has been something that I've done in my work that I've kind of walked back from a few times in that time as well. You know, you brown Do you somebody at least I feel that my now and but I wanted to do it in a way that was giving that made sense.

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Lanise Howard
And so I am glad that I did wait because I like to everything has to kind of flow and I can't just do something because I can because I at this point and I can paint anything I want balling when I say, what am I saying more than just the esthetics of it. And so I think I have to get to the point where, you know me as a woman, I was being objectified for my body.

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Lanise Howard
I was being just for the way that I'm going to shells. And they were using I was an artist. They would ask me, were that the entire model or what was going on? And, you know, there's different things in, in that happening again and again and again. It was like, damn like, why do we have to go through this as women?

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Lanise Howard
And then I started thinking more about that and all my past experiences. And then, you know, the show that I'm doing now, I guess I can give you an exclusive. It's titled Nudes and that you that s that E And then there's going to be, you know, a subtitle. And then I knew that, you know, but so I'm like, yes.

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Lanise Howard
So it's definitely about in a way, it's kind of like a self my own story in a way, but through the lens of archetypes that I'm using. And these are from the seventies, these divas, and I think we all live through each other. But, you know, it's it's about the body. It's about power and femininity. It's about being a diva, being a, you know, being like this woman that takes her power back.

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Lanise Howard
It's not only about the diva, it's also about the Angelou, which is the one who doesn't know she has that power either. So. So, yeah, like, I'm like, you got to you have to like, I can't just say it about this and then kind of have we have a painting that's like so in that power, I know I have to have one that's like, bam, this is it now.

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Lanise Howard
So yeah.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
You got to hit him over the head with it.

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Lanise Howard
I'm not ranting.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
No, no, no. And here's the thing. I'll chime in with this because, you know, you mentioned the thing that definitely had my eyebrow raise. I don't know if you saw it, but it's sort of this thing where you go there and this assumption that certain parties make of, you know, the assumption that you're a dancer, you're a mommy or whatever, you're not the artist.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
That's that's well, to me, I have stopped almost going to any public thing because I've heard I'm 64, right? I'm tall, dude, and I've dropped some weights. I've had I've had that is a thing too. But it's like you don't look like a podcaster. I was like, I don't even know what that means. What does that even mean?

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
And or even they don't think I'm security. I I've been told at a, an event where I was getting an award for for my podcast that can you take can you scan our tickets because obviously I worked the gate I had a lanyard on that said winner and and it's it's weird how those things go. So it does give you a context where you might be viewed by certain parties.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
And I say that to say almost being unapologetically, almost unapologetic about what I do. And I even hear, you know, how you're approaching music, you know, And when I do interviews, I see the thing of, like, underrepresented, you know, unrepresented. I mean, black and brown people. I mean, women aren't getting that same sort of respect and and adoration and opportunities to really talk about their work authentically.

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Lanise Howard
Uh huh. That's that's what's another I want a whole rant with that. But I'm not anti.

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Rob Lee, truth in this art
Q But you've grown up.

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Lanise Howard
Recently, I think because I'm on my side. My work for the past three and a half, almost four years all around the world and, you know, I never wanted to be one of those women. So it's like, well, we not getting the fame, but it's like you start to see it and you're like, Damn right. You know, I think also being a young woman, people put you in a box.

00;27;52;19 - 00;28;13;12
Lanise Howard
They're like, Oh, you're not ready for this. You're not ready for that. You're enough. Or they judge you because you're still young and you still may want to take a selfie or you want to do something else outside of you don't you're not celebrity or your 24 seven, which I kind of do. But I also have tried to balance my life with other beings.

00;28;13;12 - 00;28;42;12
Lanise Howard
And and, you know, you can get jaded about it because, you know, like, I as for myself, everything is everything is in divine timing. But, you know, the world is not always on the side of the young black woman. And you do feel that. But I like a challenge. And I tell myself, you know, I just have to I work harder, my work gets better anyway, I get better.

00;28;42;16 - 00;29;09;09
Lanise Howard
So I like the you know, I like the the force to keep shine in the diamonds, you know, more brilliant. So I you know, I accept it, but there's moments where I'm just like, okay, I see how the world is, you know, it's it's harder, you know, But I guess I wouldn't have it any other way because that's how I got here.

00;29;09;12 - 00;29;27;00
Rob Lee, truth in this art
It gets to all of us all. And thank you for for sharing that. It is a real experience. I mean, you know, when I do the these conversations, I want people to share where they're at, what they're thinking, what's baked into it, versus he told me about you work. Oh, that's so interesting. You can see the person yawning as they're asking the question.

00;29;27;03 - 00;29;59;24
Rob Lee, truth in this art
I listen to so many interviews. I'm like, I don't know if I'm a good interviewer, but they're absolutely not a good enough show. So so I want to ask I want to ask you about this in thinking of like we have our own ways of bringing ideas to life, like, you know, I'm teaching right now. I'm teaching a group of seniors, podcasting, seniors in high school, and it's art school, and I'm going through the whole structure and planning of doing something and building out a podcast.

00;29;59;24 - 00;30;24;24
Rob Lee, truth in this art
People just like you put on a mic and then boom, you got a podcast. And it's not that. And there's strategy, there's structure in it. And you know, as I was sharing with you before we got started, this is what I had in mind for, you know, this, this conversation in the release. So could you walk us through like a recent piece and like sort of what the the genesis was like from, hey, I got this initial idea, I think this might be cool to write.

00;30;24;24 - 00;30;36;16
Rob Lee, truth in this art
I'm a finish this piece, a stroke right here. And we're we're good. We're good. You know, the thing with painters, they're never quite done. It's like, yeah, I can do more. I can do a little bit more here, a few more details.

00;30;36;18 - 00;31;08;06
Lanise Howard
We had back, like, I like it. It's dry for a while and then I just go in and I'm like, okay, we're trying to think that the so this is the Green Door. I had a, I was having reoccurring dreams about green doors and they would be in like interior scenes. I would be like houses. And then I would go in the house and then the house would have multiple doors and they would be green.

00;31;08;08 - 00;31;32;21
Lanise Howard
And I would go in these doors and there would be no floor. The floor would be kind of like a spy. There was more to the dream, but got to give kind of And it's a little emotional to I'm going to that to it. But to some of them were about my mom. But I was having these recurring dreams and I was trying to figure out what the dreams were about.

00;31;32;23 - 00;32;00;16
Lanise Howard
And so I started doing some investigation on the symbology of a Green Door. And basically it was kind of mentioning about how the Green Door is often associated with you, kind of like a new realization of your self or like a new chapter. And so, yeah, so I had these sketches that I was building from my dream journal, these doors.

00;32;00;18 - 00;32;30;20
Lanise Howard
And then I saw an image of Kim Rear coming out of the door. And I see that image and say that actually this is the altered image, actually. So this image was not this was in a movie and I screenshot of it just kind of out of a door here. But then I took this image and I put it in Photoshop and changed some things about it so it didn't look exactly like that.

00;32;30;22 - 00;32;57;28
Lanise Howard
And so I say that image, the original one, not that one. And then the next day this guy on Instagram messaged me and say he said, You know what? You remind me of a young. And I said, Really? Ainsley? And I never thought we looked like that. And I was like, Really? And he showed me a picture and it was MAXINE picture.

00;32;58;01 - 00;33;24;04
Lanise Howard
So then I was like, okay, there's also that. So then I took that picture and then I started sketching her and did a study of her, which is fascinating, and give it a chance to actually get to space. And then as I started doing the studies, the part I felt like I was merging her with me. And I realized that I do that a lot.

00;33;24;07 - 00;33;46;01
Lanise Howard
Like when I paint the women there are them, but they're also like me. It's almost like every woman that I do is like a self-portrait in a way. In my I started getting her more and then I started noticing certain things on her body because, you know, she was very like my husband and me. I've always kind of been like, skinny, but like my chest.

00;33;46;04 - 00;34;05;20
Lanise Howard
So I was just like, Wow, was she, like, work with so much power? And sometimes, like, I've actually kind of kept to downplay that part of my body because of the negative attention that I sometimes get. And but then there's times where I'm just like embracing it and I'm like, so happy. And I go, well, with my body, you know?

00;34;05;20 - 00;34;27;07
Lanise Howard
So I guess it gave me like it inspired me, I guess. And then I started looking up all these images of her and, and I was like, Wow, I guess I can see the thing. So from there I was I realized like she was going to be one of my muses that wasn't used. And so I end up putting her in that scene.

00;34;27;09 - 00;34;38;12
Lanise Howard
And so it was like her. But it's also me at the same time. It's like a mix of both. And yeah, so that's how that one kind of came to be is funny.

00;34;38;12 - 00;35;03;12
Rob Lee, truth in this art
And thank you because I had a, I was meeting with a friend yesterday. The reason this is going to be very interesting, I think because it's no coincidences talking with a friend and she was like, yeah, keep get it. I look like Pam Grier. You were literally in the conversation and, you know, we were chatting it up. She was she was a guest in the pod and we were just, you know, kind of connecting.

00;35;03;15 - 00;35;23;11
Rob Lee, truth in this art
And she was like, You ever hear that? You look like Donald Glover? And I was like, You're like the fifth person has told me that. And it's it's this thing where what is it's not a coincidence. And it's like, I like that dude. I like how he goes about his creativity and what he tries to bring all of these different things, sometimes going left, sometimes doing, you know, something that, okay, that makes sense.

00;35;23;11 - 00;35;47;14
Rob Lee, truth in this art
I don't know if he should be rapping, but that makes sense. And so these, these sort of different things. So hearing like, you know, you got the sort of DM like, you know, you look like Pam Grier, that having sort of this image and the blending that that's happening there where in in the, in the piece that you were showing me, where where does the, the color come from?

00;35;47;14 - 00;35;56;17
Rob Lee, truth in this art
And as far as this is an image or an idea that was in a dream, are you like doing one of these like, Yeah, I got my notebook, I got to write this down.

00;35;56;19 - 00;36;23;26
Lanise Howard
Yeah, yeah. I have my dream journal and I sketching it probably on a daily or every other day basis, and I sketch and I write a lot in there. So sometimes it's I'll describe it something like a green door or a floor with no floor, with no ground, and then out, you know, something that comes will come to me in my dreams and sometimes just images.

00;36;23;26 - 00;36;48;16
Lanise Howard
And with this, but this kind of show that's been developing, it's been developing now for several months and originally I was kind of inspired by my mom. And so I was going to do a show. Valerie, It's my mother's name, and I was taking pictures that she gave in the seventies when she was a teenager, and it kind of branched from there.

00;36;48;16 - 00;37;10;09
Lanise Howard
It's like I started listening to a lot of Minnie Riperton Minnie Riperton. She kind of looks like my mom a lot. And my mom has breast cancer and passed from breast cancer. There was like there was just these things that were kind of aligning. I was listening to the music. It's almost like she was foreshadowing her caffeine. And so it was very deep.

00;37;10;09 - 00;37;34;12
Lanise Howard
But I was I was originally going to do like some kind of memorandum, like kind of like a memorandum of her in a way. And then it just turned developed into me looking at movies from the seventies, looking at music from the seventies. And then I started finding other women, and then it kind of like just developed from there.

00;37;34;12 - 00;37;57;07
Lanise Howard
But I was using those images as kind of like just to just indexing them. And then my dreams, I was having like these reoccurring giants about different things. And it, it was almost like things were aligning with each other. I also watched a documentary on Daniel Luna and I read somewhere, which I'm not.

00;37;57;07 - 00;38;01;16
Rob Lee, truth in this art
I am not. I'm typing the name in right now, but the people.

00;38;01;16 - 00;38;25;07
Lanise Howard
So when I used the model, people would tell me, like, you remind me of Daniel Luna's youth. I'm six one and Daniel was like 6 to 1. And so he's really, really, really tall, skinny. And when I was a model weight, I was really skinny like back then. And people when I was like, okay, I'm using a Luna.

00;38;25;09 - 00;38;53;05
Lanise Howard
And in the back of many of her recently and she actually her real name was not Daniel Luna, but she named herself Luna. She would say she's from the moon. And so like the moon, the science thing like that. So I'm kind of pull chart in into the narrative because she also, like she had that time of genocide that Misty back, that thing that that magic that like I feel like we hold.

00;38;53;07 - 00;39;16;07
Lanise Howard
And I think that this show is also about magic. There's going to be a man in the in the show whose name is Mister Magic. So it's like different characters. I can kind of give you a little. So they're going to paint the small one of them right now. So this one is really kind of a magician.

00;39;16;10 - 00;39;17;17
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Nice.

00;39;17;19 - 00;39;21;08
Lanise Howard
Yeah. And that is going to be a big painting of him. Mr. Magic.

00;39;21;11 - 00;39;26;27
Rob Lee, truth in this art
I like these these cool colors that are there too. It's just like purple. You get blue, yellow.

00;39;27;00 - 00;39;37;12
Lanise Howard
Little view from there. And then there's one over here that I had to move because I had to make face that you probably recognize this. These are.

00;39;37;14 - 00;39;37;25
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Supreme.

00;39;37;26 - 00;39;58;21
Lanise Howard
Stripes. Yes. Yeah. So, yeah, it's developing. He has some works on paper that I was playing with and when I did, it's kind of like until recently and I like I.

00;39;58;21 - 00;40;08;09
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Like that you're capturing the hair too, you know, that's one of the things. And that last way, you just it's like you're capturing the hair because like, it's, it's important. Like, you know, like within the hair is like look.

00;40;08;09 - 00;40;26;08
Lanise Howard
You got Yeah. And I'm kind of playing with it and like some of the hair is blue. So I'm just telling myself, like, if I'm going to do something this do it. I want to paint the hair blue. It's blue now if I want it, you know, like this is black, but it has a blue ness to it, I guess went away.

00;40;26;08 - 00;41;03;08
Lanise Howard
And then I'm thinking if I make it more blue, a little bit more, you know, blue. And I feel like the the contrast of the colors, these are works on paper. So these are paint teams and they're like multi, I guess, mixed media. I was doing some last paintings and then using colored pencil on top. You know, this is like house that is loose, that is transparencies and working towards it now just started the sketch today folks they were just doing their the under sketch.

00;41;03;10 - 00;41;24;06
Rob Lee, truth in this art
As you as you touched on you're you're building out the your universe you're you're furthering your universe so to your hair's there's going to be blue and this is just what it is. And this universe here at blue, I don't care you know, And I think again, it's, it's like the people that are supposed to get it, and I can say that I'm one of them.

00;41;24;06 - 00;41;51;15
Rob Lee, truth in this art
They're going to get it and they're going to be right in with it. So let me let me ask you, these last two real questions, and then I got some rapid fire questions. So some people like to call them the best questions. I like to say that. All right. So which part of your process because, you know, this is like one of those rare instances where I've been able to see, like works and production being developed and it's like in all the interviews I've done, it's the first time.

00;41;51;15 - 00;41;54;12
Rob Lee, truth in this art
So shout out to your first.

00;41;54;14 - 00;41;56;05
Lanise Howard
And give me a Scream exclusive.

00;41;56;07 - 00;42;20;04
Rob Lee, truth in this art
I appreciate it. Oh, so so which part of your process like takes? This is a multi-part question. Which part of your process like, takes the most time? Which part of the process is more like the most like play and which is the most like work? When I wrote that question it as a brand new question, I'm coming up with new stuff to.

00;42;20;07 - 00;42;50;08
Lanise Howard
What's the most like, right? What's the most like plain. I would say there's aspects of each process that you'll like working for, like playing for me, I would say my studies feel like playing and that's what I love to do. Studies because actually what that was before, I feel like I can just play, you know, I can take the reference whether it be like my dreams that were like the photographic reference.

00;42;50;08 - 00;43;27;18
Lanise Howard
And then I'm like inventing from it and I'm just being loose ball and being loose and I'm not like confining myself. I'm just like, you know what? Let me explore because I think I have to constantly tell myself that I'm not creating reality. You know, I'm creating my own version of an idealized, imagined thing that has a threat of reality in it.

00;43;27;20 - 00;43;50;12
Lanise Howard
But it's it's something new. And so when like, when you creating something new, you can't testing yourself in the old or what's existing, you're creating something that doesn't exist. So when I'm able to play with like my sketches, I'm I'm just being free. I'm like, you know what? I want the neck to look like this. I want the shoulder to have this angle to them.

00;43;50;12 - 00;44;13;18
Lanise Howard
I want to ask to be overly expressive. I want there to be more lines in the face here. I'm just pulling something else from it, and then I'll go back and look at the original reference. And I'm like, You. It doesn't look like the same thing anymore, you know? And I feel like that's the funnest part of it, where I'm just able to make way.

00;44;13;19 - 00;44;35;24
Lanise Howard
I'm listening to my music. I'm just like losing myself in the work. And then I also think when I first start the painting, that's really exciting because, you know, there's been so much writing. It's been so much several studies that I've done, you know, like fleshed out drawings, you know, and then it's like, okay, here come the painting.

00;44;35;24 - 00;45;03;29
Lanise Howard
Let's, let's go, you know? Yeah. And then a part that feels like work is getting through the painting. Getting through the painting. Of course, you know, some of the writing is I really love writing, but yeah, like sometimes the painting. But I'm realizing if the painting is a hassle to get through, it's not where you need to be.

00;45;04;01 - 00;45;22;04
Lanise Howard
Like, of course there going to be some parts that are just tedious, but the patient really feel too, too much like that. You know, it should be really fun throughout most of it. And that's kind of where I'm at now. I don't want to take anything that's not fun.

00;45;22;07 - 00;45;41;18
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Yeah, I'm on at that same template. You know, I've been telling more and more people and you start responding in this way. I was like, I'm done with auditioning. I'm ready to do that anymore. And you know, you're right. Is that going back to one of the things you mentioned, the you know, just when you go into it, it's an energy thing.

00;45;41;18 - 00;46;04;24
Rob Lee, truth in this art
You go into it feeling like this is not fun. I'm not super interested in this. This is kind of mid. It's like I can do it. I'm confident I can do it. Blake I love when I'm coming there. Coming to an interview, have booked an interview. And the thing for me, the process for me is once I get something from them, a bio or something, and if I'm really, really, really into their stuff, writing questions takes no time.

00;46;04;26 - 00;46;34;20
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Coming up with thoughtful, interesting questions, takes no time trying to get into their head, takes no time. But when it's some somewhat of a slog and I'm trying to get through it, it's I would imagine, very similar. It's like, Damn, I got to write these people. And, you know, it's like what I what I what's interesting about their work and I talk to curators at times and they'll ask me because I'll do interviews with them and so on, just again, trying to get multiple perspectives and you know, they'll say, So how do you interpret this?

00;46;34;20 - 00;46;55;09
Rob Lee, truth in this art
And I was like, I'm trying not to sound like a dick or anything, but does their work interest me? And that's sort of the starting point and which degree it interests me. They are times where I can talk to a chef. I come up with questions immediately because I'm a food nerd. If I talk to someone that's in comics, I wanted to be a comic book artist, so I'm going to have that perspective.

00;46;55;09 - 00;47;15;05
Rob Lee, truth in this art
But then when it goes to visual art is not a birds and so on. So it's different things, but sometimes it might be someone who's a really good interview prospectively for the clicks, if you will, but I might not personally be interested in their work to the degree in which maybe a listener could be interested in hearing their their story.

00;47;15;05 - 00;47;35;26
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Because, you know, we're we're around for the, you know, especially with social media. And I know we're both kind of, you know, taking some time away from it or reanalyzing our relationship with it. There is an attention economy out there and say, oh, Rob, interview this big name person. But it's like, was the interview good? Was he was the interview interesting?

00;47;35;28 - 00;48;02;26
Rob Lee, truth in this art
I'd rather talk to people that it's like, oh, we clicked. And the thing that that's funny about it and it's it's almost deceptive where folks will listen to an interview and like, damn, you really help that person show they're real cool person. I think they friends. It's like I just meet person. I'm just mean like so so here's the, the last sort of real question.

00;48;02;28 - 00;48;03;25
Lanise Howard
Is.

00;48;03;27 - 00;48;27;12
Rob Lee, truth in this art
What is this kind of ties I think to it in exploring like like opportunities. Right. Whether it be, hey, I want to work with this gallery or this is, you know, something I'm going to in my time to like even doing a podcast, what are for you? And maybe this is something that could be, you know, advice oriented for younger artists who are artists who are just trying to figure out what are the green flags for you?

00;48;27;12 - 00;48;30;03
Rob Lee, truth in this art
What did a red flag for you?

00;48;30;06 - 00;48;51;01
Lanise Howard
Oh, wow. This was actually I was going to branch into this for you're brown, right? Right here. I think that they have definitely changed for me recently. When I started. So I started showing while I was in school like 2018. But at that time I was really showing in like a smaller capacity. It was like more an artist.

00;48;51;01 - 00;49;22;23
Lanise Howard
Open spaces. So I would say when I really like launched into like real commercial notable galleries, that was in 2020. And I think I was I was just happy to be there in a way like I was. I was saying yes to a lot. I was meaning love a lot even back then. But I was taking on too much and I learned so much in that process of what is acceptable and what's not acceptable.

00;49;22;26 - 00;49;50;20
Lanise Howard
And I think for me now I'm just going to different space then I guess a lot of upcoming artists. So I can't really this how I'll, I'll branch into advice for them. But for me I feel like now I don't want to do anything. Doesn't make sense for me. I you know, it has to make sense. I it have mixed into it, you know, but there was a point where I was like, I haven't showed in Berlin.

00;49;50;27 - 00;50;11;10
Lanise Howard
Yes, I'm in Berlin. I haven't shown in London. Oh, yes. Now I'm in London. I'm now I'm in Paris. Now I'm in. Well, now I'm in this now I'm in that. Like it was like I wanted to hit every mark. And I basically have done that. There's probably some other places like I haven't done some in Seattle or something, but, you know, I saw them in like, all over the world.

00;50;11;10 - 00;50;35;23
Lanise Howard
And I think now it's like, okay, you've done that, but is this going to make sense for you? You know? So I'm very careful and strategic and it's it's really a good place to be in, but it doesn't feel good sometimes because I'm I'm constantly saying no, you know, And sometimes I'm like, damn, maybe that would have been okay.

00;50;35;27 - 00;50;45;26
Lanise Howard
Opportunity, you know, I said no to some opportunities in time and later on my like the Met Beyoncé I don't know.

00;50;45;28 - 00;51;09;25
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Yeah it's it's it's important to me would be strategic like when you said that I was like oh this sister is on the same page. She is on the same page I'm on when it comes to that. And now my friend, you've given yourself like four rapid fire questions. Okay. Like I said, I've been adding as we've been talking, I've been typing as we've been talking.

00;51;09;27 - 00;51;28;21
Rob Lee, truth in this art
So the way I like to describe these and, you know, inevitably will, you know, we all just overthink them. But you don't overthink these questions. It's just like what I said when I said this. This is my answer. All right. Here's the first one. Obviously, music. You're you know, you're a singer. You you have music in the studio.

00;51;28;23 - 00;51;32;14
Rob Lee, truth in this art
What is currently getting the most play on your playlist.

00;51;32;16 - 00;51;34;02
Lanise Howard
Artist or song?

00;51;34;05 - 00;51;37;14
Rob Lee, truth in this art
AM Song. Let's go song.

00;51;37;16 - 00;51;42;07
Lanise Howard
Oh, Spotify, Spotify, Tell me. But I have Apple music. I don't know if they tell me.

00;51;42;09 - 00;51;46;17
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Or tell me or tell me the artist, if you like. And that's that's fine as well.

00;51;46;20 - 00;52;12;16
Lanise Howard
So artist that we have many reviews and I love her. I'm been living in this way, having deja vu so many of the time I've been playing her like nonstop. I public her every day and, you know, so you wonder and then I kind of am playing some rap again lately, which is kind of surprising because I fit into the right format for a little bit.

00;52;12;19 - 00;52;34;08
Lanise Howard
But like, I was listening to a lot of Foxy Brown and trying it all, that album. What I love about listening to some classical music and a lot of these like LA. So there's like a whole movement of like L.A. bands that sound like they're from the sixties.

00;52;34;10 - 00;52;36;01
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Okay, I like this.

00;52;36;03 - 00;52;51;01
Lanise Howard
You know that song? Can I call you Rose? Yes. Yeah. So I played that song, and then I basically found that there's all these, like New Age 60 crooners that play. And a lot of them.

00;52;51;03 - 00;53;28;12
Rob Lee, truth in this art
You know, they're jamming on the sacred souls. I dig it. I dig it. Oh, yes. Well, yeah, Well, so I think a lot of times we, we, we, we are our influences because that's, you know, sort of our reference point sometimes it's not like that. We're stealing from them, but we're being actually influenced by them. Like, you know, I dive in some of these old books like the Austin Kleon books or even this one, that some of my questions have been coming out of the Adam Kurtz's book, Things Are What You Make Them Like of Life advice for artists and, you know, I'm like getting that sort of inspiration from the questions and how he's

00;53;28;12 - 00;53;39;01
Rob Lee, truth in this art
he's covering things. And inevitably they show up in the questions and how I'm approaching conversations with folks. So, you know, and I don't shy away from that, you know?

00;53;39;04 - 00;53;47;16
Lanise Howard
Yeah. So I think so you ask me what which media has influenced me the most when it comes to art?

00;53;47;18 - 00;53;54;02
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Yeah. We're like, really captures, like, yeah, they're saying exactly what I'm on label.

00;53;54;05 - 00;54;28;15
Lanise Howard
I won't say I found that yet, to be honest, but I would say one of the documentaries that really made me think a lot about color is the history of art and every color on the tobacco menu. It was on the BBC and it was like one of the chapters. It was talking about blue in the history of Blue, and it really made me think about this this I watched this two years ago, but it really made me think about color and the symbology of color and and being like very intentional about color.

00;54;28;21 - 00;54;50;03
Lanise Howard
Because I think before that I was in school and it was more esthetic to me. It was like, okay, I like this color or I like, you know, but why do you like it? What what does it mean? Or why do we why are we drop certain colors? Why are we inspired by certain things? And, and now I'm very methodical on approach with color.

00;54;50;03 - 00;54;58;10
Lanise Howard
It's it's very strategic. Whereas before it was just more about the esthetics.

00;54;58;12 - 00;55;16;07
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Blue is blue for a long time was my my favorite color and I was wondering why I was so attracted to it. And it's my favorite color become sort of these was really midterms if I were to put really fine point on, it's probably a gray because I'm just kind of sit in the center or what have you.

00;55;16;07 - 00;55;35;19
Rob Lee, truth in this art
It's like I guess each perspective and I think that's an interesting vantage point, not a fence sitter per se, but I think the interesting vantage point to to observe from. So earlier you showed me the glorious lemon tree in your dress currently like a lemon. And for those folks that don't know, yeah, you dress like a lemon right now.

00;55;35;21 - 00;55;39;18
Lanise Howard
Living in my dress.

00;55;39;20 - 00;55;50;28
Rob Lee, truth in this art
What is your it what is your your favorite meal If it's lemon related extra points, you know, like, yo, look, I love living chicken. I love the liver piccata. Well, what is your favorite dish?

00;55;51;01 - 00;55;58;12
Lanise Howard
But I would say probably entirely something seafood oriented. Yeah.

00;55;58;14 - 00;56;26;13
Rob Lee, truth in this art
Yeah. All right. This is this is the last one? This is the Bring it Home one. So I'm very curious about, like, the processes that creative folks engage in, like in their downtime. Right? So this this is the way this one goes. What is the first thing that you're doing once you, you know, get up in the morning like some folks are like, yo, the data is starting to I have my coffee and you stretch to do my mindfulness practice.

00;56;26;13 - 00;56;30;20
Rob Lee, truth in this art
What is the first thing that's integral for you to get started in the day?

00;56;30;22 - 00;56;58;18
Lanise Howard
Usually when I wake up, I've been telling myself to not get on the phone immediately and I sit in the bed for 30 minutes an hour and talk to my spouse or talk to God. I talk about a lot of things that are on my mind and and it's kind of like meditate. It's more like meditation. So yeah, that's probably what I do.

00;56;58;18 - 00;57;18;04
Lanise Howard
I don't drink coffee. I'm, um, I used to drink coffee in high school when I worked at McDonald's, but I guess it didn't work because I'm still poor. I didn't I didn't want to like it. My head actually wanted to be tall and I was just I wanted to be a part of hospitals and I was trying to model in my mind, I thought I was like a supermodel.

00;57;18;07 - 00;58;03;16
Lanise Howard
No, thank you, Tyler. But I just loved coffee, and now I just don't drink it because I think I'm so naturally, like, bubbly and energetic that coffee is it? Give me a little too much energy. So. So, yeah, but I do like tea. And I'm doing this whole thing with, like, I'm intermittent fasting. Eat until probably like 3 p.m. I'm, I know it's a little sometimes a little extreme, but yeah, so I don't eat anything, so I'm just kind of chilling for hours and hours doing like no food.

00;58;03;16 - 00;58;27;26
Lanise Howard
Just do my lemon water in the morning. I don't do it every day. I do it like every other day and I have some tea and then two kids on the little hungry. I start getting ready to cook and then I eat. And then I go down and I take like a tube through the plant studio. So I was Marshall trying to catch up on my rest and never really help.

00;58;27;28 - 00;59;01;00
Lanise Howard
But now I'm back in studio. And yeah, I usually would come down to the studio. I live right upstairs from my studio, so I just roll out of bed and write that year and I usually went for like a few hours. The first the hour we Marcel's sketching studies in around and then I'll eat a little snack and then I'll get real like detail heavy with it and basically start and then, then you're in in my day three.

00;59;01;03 - 00;59;23;29
Rob Lee, truth in this art
So. Right. So that's kind of it. On the Rapid Fire. Thank you so much. This has been truly a joy and a treat. And so there are two things I want to do to close out. One, I want to thank you again for coming on. And two, I want to invite and encourage you to share with the listeners where they can check you out your work website, Social Media, Shameless plugs, The floor is yours.

00;59;24;02 - 00;59;56;22
Lanise Howard
Yes. So my website is my name is Dot com. It's under maintenance right now. We're doing some adjustments and but it should be back up in the next week or two too. And yeah Instagram money is how it is and it's for Howard underscore studio also you can find my bio and kind of about my work at Moody Solomon dot com slash line is powered also Monte that comes last is Howard also so yeah.

00;59;56;24 - 01;00;23;22
Rob Lee, truth in this art
There you have it folks I want to again I think Lanise Howard for coming on and sharing a bit of her story of her process and giving us a little taste, some future work. I'm broadly saying that there's art, culture and community in and around your neck of the woods. You've just got to look for it