Welcome back to the Truth in Us Art, your source for conversations joining arts, culture, and community. These are stories that matter, and I am your host, Rob Lee. Thank you so much for joining me. Today, my next guest is a self taught artist from Montreal, Quebec, Canada, a painter known for her highly photorealistic approach to depicting subjects that reinterpret classical paintings and motifs. Her work has been exhibited and collected internationally, and we last spoke in 2023.
Rob Lee:And I'm really looking forward to catching up and hearing what she's been up to. Please welcome back to the program, Roxie Peroxide. Roxanne Sorio Helen Herm. Welcome back to the podcast.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Thank you for having me.
Rob Lee:Thank you for coming on. It's it's been, and thank you thank you for coming back on. You know, like, it's it's like when you have a class or you do, like, a review or something, you're like, I hope everyone likes me. I hope they wanna come back. So being able to have folks come back, it's it's truly a a testament.
Rob Lee:And, and then and over the you know, looking at, you know, sort of these interviews as we were touching on a little bit before we got started, I you and I spoke back in 2023, and, you know, it's been a lot that's happened in the last few years. So could you, if you will, reintroduce yourself to the listeners who aren't, you know, familiar with who you are. And, you know, could you share some of the biggest changes that have taken place over the last couple of years for you and your work?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. So I'm Roxanne Soriel, Roxie for Roxanne for socials. I'm a self taught painter. I started, around when I was like 21 when I was in maternity leave. And, I haven't stopped since.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:And yeah, that's me. I don't know. Yeah. Next question was, okay. What I've been up to, just right now, it's just constant work.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:But since 2023, I'm not sure exactly. I I've done a bunch of, group shows, no solo shows yet, but two solo shows coming up, this year.
Rob Lee:K. Here here's the cool thing. Here's the cool thing you just did right there.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:What did I
Rob Lee:You you answered one of my last questions, which is great so I can, like, cut that one off. So you you're making my job easier. So so shout out to you. Alright. So and thank you for for catching up with us because, you know, you see folks, they're they're doing stuff.
Rob Lee:They're putting work out there, and we're gonna go a bit a bit deeper in it. So I look at, you know, shifts. And, you know, as I was saying a bit earlier, I wanted to kinda catch up with folks and sort of a shift to revisiting things, something that's that's been sitting there for me and especially in, like, exploring what I wanna do for for this year and what I'm doing in this interview as an example. So artistically or professionally, what's shifted for you the most in, let's say, the last year?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:So I was, reaching a point where I felt that I was, just repeating myself. So so as soon as this happens, normally what what what I do is just, try something completely new or flip something or just try to think outside of the box. So as some viewers or you may know, I was, often, reinterpreting like old old masters, works. But I realized that this was like getting really, really limiting. And I was basically I painted myself in a corner basically by doing that because as much as it was interesting for the time being, there was only, like, the work that that's known and that have has already been done.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Like there's only so, so many of them. So I reached a point where I just felt it was just repeating itself constantly. And I, I don't like that. So then, and then I realized after that also that I was basically using that to validate, a narrative, like, that wasn't necessarily mine, but that would be validated within, like, society because those works already exist. And by twisting them, I'm adding my own little, grain of salt, but or big grain of salt depending on which ones.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:But, then it just became this whole thing, like, a little bit like making an excuse for not actually looking within and just daring to just say what the fuck I wanna say. So sorry. Can I swear?
Rob Lee:You're good.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Okay. So then I just started, stepping out of this completely, keeping the same, like, the same, subject, matter and format and colors and all that is very recognizable still. But oh, my cat jumped on my shoulder. And and so, so I started just, talking more about myself and just, yeah, just not, not basically using things as a crutch, or yeah.
Rob Lee:So, so in it, you, in terms of like the shifting a bit, you you wanted to be a a bit more personal in the work because you were seeing that you felt like you were repeating yourself and sort of the the type of work that you were doing or sort of the the subject matter you felt like you were repeating and maybe adding that that grain? Yeah. It was small.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:It was like a, like, it was like a, like a sand box. You know, you play within some limitations. And then I reached a point where I explored everything that was to be explored within that that sandbox. And then I got bored with it, and I got and then I decided that it was time for me to, to just dare, just talk about whatever comes to my mind without, like, a point of reference, which was basically in that case, the old masters, works that I was referring to on my paintings. So, yeah.
Rob Lee:So you're, so you're moving to a different sandbox.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yes. Not really because now it's infinite sandbox. Cause now it's just me. It's just like whatever my brain, it's my brain's limitations now. So it, it, it's sometimes a little bit, not scary, but sometimes you like, it's the blank page, syndrome.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Okay.
Rob Lee:No. No. That makes sense. I think when we we started looking at our at ourselves, like, I use use this as sort of my reference point. This is my creative thing.
Rob Lee:Right? And, you know, I'm not trying to do the same thing that other people are doing or trying to do my version of it.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Mhmm.
Rob Lee:But I find I found that some of the early interviews, especially going back through some of these because some of these interviews or some of the guests that I'm talking to again, they were from early in the show. I'm like, yo. I was not a good interviewer then, or I didn't have any insight, or I was trying to be like someone else and put my own play on it. Now when I go through, I'm like, alright. I got some confidence here.
Rob Lee:It's a little scary because
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
Rob Lee:Some of you creative types. Some of you you are is a little little intimidating. I'm looking at one right now. You know, it's intimidating, you know, with the punk background and all.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Oh, what? Me? Yeah.
Rob Lee:So and and and so and thank you for giving us that. I'm gonna go a little bit deeper. So what kind of work excites you as, like, as an artist, but also as a viewer or an appreciated appreciator of art? What are the characteristics and things of that nature? Like, And maybe how have your your taste changed?
Rob Lee:Like, talk about, you know, sort of what you like right now, maybe what you like when you first got started. Like, what do you look for creatively and as an as an artist and as a art appreciator?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of, and thankfully there's a lot of weird shit coming out now. Like there's so much weird shit and I'm, I'm so there for it. Like there's this whole, new genre of like paintings that look like, video game, like from the February. And they look like a little bit, blurry kind of the paint with the air airbrush, I think.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:And there's this whole genre that is like, that is being born right now. And I'm super excited for, for that because that's basically the young people right now that are, like, that are exploring and that are saying whatever is crossing their mind. And they're unhinged. They're also like, they don't have that. I feel like they don't really have that kind of, self they don't self censor really.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:They'd be it's like, they've got rid of that already. The they're not from like the generation of people who just got on social media, like the millennials they're the like gen Zs and even younger than that. And they just, they, they don't care what you think. They just, they're just there for their own art, and the more original, the better. And I I'm just really, really excited for for that.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Actually, this is what I'm I'm really looking at right now, and I'm always, impressed and just, that very, very, very inspiring, and I can't wait to to see more of that.
Rob Lee:I'm hearing the the weirder things. I'm hearing sort of that Oh, yeah. That unapologetic pursuit to create. You know, it's like, this is what I wanna make. I don't care what you want.
Rob Lee:This is what I'm making. This is what my art is right now.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. They'll just, like, paint, like, a random cat, like, if, like, in a corner with a in a bathtub. Like, it's just it's become, it's becoming like whatever it's becoming everything and nothing, but everything at the same time. And it's just such like, it's very, internet culture moment. So I'm, I'm here for it.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I like it.
Rob Lee:I love that. Yeah. Like painting sort of what you know, or or creating, you know, making art around what that experience is. And it's it's like I may do something completely different, but right now, I'm gonna, like, paint this cat right here.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. And yeah, they don't explain themselves either, which I, I love. I, I like, I've never actually explained myself. This is unless you're at a show, you're talking to me directly and you're near asking me a question, then I might explain to you what, what I mean in a specific painting. But otherwise I find it so much more interesting to know what the viewer is thinking.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Cause I already knew what I'm thinking And the the art is not there for me to tell you what to think. It's there for you to experience and make whatever you want from it.
Rob Lee:I and I think when you're when the viewer is allowed to just kinda cook and kinda just be with it, that's where you actually have discourse and you have people saying, oh, well, I saw this here or, well, I saw that or did you see this part? And but if someone like your yourself or someone the the artist, the person making it saying, this is exactly what it is, it cuts that conversation short.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. And there's no room to oh, well and also, like, people think about stuff that I've never even thought of before. And I'm like, what? Oh, maybe that that's subconsciously, I did that. I mean, thank you.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:You were letting me know. Like, it's I the less I say, the the more I I can receive, basically.
Rob Lee:Yeah. And and I and I love being able to talk with, like, creative folks, with artists because I'm always learning something new. And when someone is, like, listens to this podcast, even before they come home, if they listen to the podcast and they tell me that you remind me of this, you remind me of that. I'm like, oh, that's not even an influence. Something else for me to check out and maybe learn from or something else to add to my consumption.
Rob Lee:You know what I mean?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah.
Rob Lee:So I have this question about rebellion, you know, rebelling against the system. And sometimes the systems are, like, self imposed. Right? So, like, I I find that some artists and I think you you touched on this a bit earlier, but I think some artists practice rebelling rebelling against themselves, the artists that maybe they used to be, the work that they used to make. Is that something that you overtly, like, practice?
Rob Lee:It's like, nah. I gotta just get past this. And I say that because I'm listening to, one of my favorite one of my favorite musicians is is The Weeknd and, you know, fellow Aquarius as well. So I got it. And he's a comedian.
Rob Lee:Right? And and I'd listened to this interview, and he was talking about he needed to kill the idea of The Weeknd, and maybe he'll continue it, but, also, he feels like he wants to make music as himself. Maybe that's a genre change. He's rebelling against what's been successful, creative. Is that something that that you think about in terms of sort of that that sandbox conversation we were having earlier?
Rob Lee:Or Absolutely.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Well, it's not even that I think about it. It's just it's, in my nature. I just always rebel against whatever I'm starting to feel comfortable in. And to come back to what you were saying about the weekend, it's, there's a term in, with, with, with authors that they're using and it's, it says, I think, I believe that it's, it's called kill to kill your darlings. And that's basically just kill, kill the, kill the thing you love most so that it's something you can be reborn or, yeah.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:And when you're exploiting something too much or a character too much, it's time to kill the character and to like start new or introduce something else. I believe that this is absolutely key, at least for my, for my practice, for my practice. I, I don't see myself, or I don't want to see myself repeating myself and doing the same thing over and over again.
Rob Lee:That's good. I, you know, I had to really go through and listen to and review the questions from the previous interviews to make sure I'm not asking the same question again because I was like, no. I don't know. But
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I would probably not have the same answer anyway.
Rob Lee:But I just I just think it's Goshen. So so with it, it's the I I recently got from a friend. It it was shipped to me. It was like a late, like, birthday present or have you. It was a, George Carlin book, the the comedian.
Rob Lee:And I I remember reading over his background and one of the things and, I think still like an artist that he would do was he would take his jokes and he would get rid of his joke book each year. It's like, this is the material that I've done. Now it's gone. You know, after I've done it, not to, you know, or after he's done it not to kinda dive back in. Maybe you'll arrive to a same insight or observation, but you're gonna do something different.
Rob Lee:And I I find that really interesting, and I applied that to when I write questions, I try to have, like, a long list of questions, and I try to categorize them of this could be an interesting insight. But I'm always changing that process. I used to have a just set list of questions, and you would see some recycled and some tweaked. But I'm always tweaking and and rerefining the process, whether it be how I go about preproduction, how I go about doing an interview, how I even, you know, you know, roll out an interview. Are you with sort of like, are you changing or disrupting your process maybe to find something new within your, your, your art process?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. Like recently I changed, I'm starting to paint on linen instead of canvas. And it's actually a big shift in the, like the way that the, the linen absorbs the paint is completely different and it creates, it's just so much better. And I was terrified of using it because imposter syndrome, I don't know. And I was like, this is like more expensive.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:This is really worth it. Like, what am I doing? Is it, is there really a change? And now I, I just can't go back. So I've done that as well.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:When I, I started painting with oils, I was painting like for ten or twelve years with acrylics and then I wasn't getting any better and I wasn't really improving. And I was like, this time it's time for me to change something. Cause I'm, I'm getting bored and I not actually improving anything. So I got to switch things up. And this is when I moved from acrylics to oils, It was a bit of a transition period where like, I have to actually learn how to use just the medium, just the way that the paint spread is completely different.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Not to get it into my face as much or, you know, so, so, yeah, I always try to to keep moving whenever I feel, some sort of stagnant, energy, creeping in.
Rob Lee:How how often are you painting these days? Is it, like, a notice noticeable, like, uptick now that you're, like, a a lot busier? Is it sort of, like, pretty static that, yeah, I'm gonna do, you you know, a certain number in a course of a day or in a week, a number of hours that you're working on, or is it project or I don't.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I'm like super, super, super busy right now. I'm actually working. I've been working seven days a week for the past month and a half or two months ever, like ever since Christmas, even on Christmas, I was working. But anyways, so yeah, I've been working nonstop, Sundays. These days I've been shooting reference photos.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:So that's like my day off, but that's not really a day off. I'm actually working. I'm just trying to trick myself. But yeah, I, I work from morning. I wake up at seven.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Then as soon as the sunset, I have to stop because I'm not getting the sunlight. So I, and then that will actually ruin whatever I'm doing because the, the colors are not the same with artificial light. And then if I work with artificial light, then I wake up in the morning and then it's completely different. It has no, no, Yeah. So, yeah, I worked from, from seven till four ish every day, Saturdays, Sundays.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. That's my life right now, but it's like, I always do that whenever, whenever there is like something that's starting to be stagnant. It's like, it's like, life is like really pushing me to my limits so that I can like birth something new. So I'm in that process right now. I'm like in labor.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I'm in full blown labor, up until the March. And then again, I have another show I'll be working on, for August in New York, which I'm really excited about. And, the upcoming one is in April with the arc enemies and Philadelphia, which I'm super excited as well.
Rob Lee:And we'll and we'll explore those a little bit towards the the end so we can, you know, have folks know a bit about the details, what have you. I got I got a couple more questions before we we kinda close out. Before we get to the rapid fire part, I gotta get you at the rapid fire. But so I'm I'm curious about this. I've been doing this five five years at this point, and I I hear this this running thing about what support looks like.
Rob Lee:And, you know, as far as being an artist and I hear folks and to a degree of what I do, I feel that support is odd. Like, you might have an event. You might have a live show. You might have an opening or something along those lines. And support might look like folks showing up and say, hey.
Rob Lee:You know, there's there's Roxanne. Or, hey. You know, there's there's Rob, what have you. Or sometimes just people buying the work. But what does support look like?
Rob Lee:You may be outside of money, maybe outside of patronage, but deeper. What is rewarding in terms of support as it relates to your art career?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Oh my god.
Rob Lee:I know. That's a that's a that's a deep one.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. Well, support. Well, as I mean, the work has to, like, resonate with someone. So that's number one. So if I'm not actually being authentic or truthful or delivering something that resonates with anyone, then I'm not going to get the support from anyone.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:So that's number one. I think that's where, there's no point of doing it if you're not actually, authentic and receiving something back. Even if you're receiving hate, at least you're receiving something you're, you're creating something, whatever you're reflecting that people are hating and they hate on you, you're actually moving energy and you're doing something. So I think that would be that's my answer. That would be my answer.
Rob Lee:I think it's a good answer. So so thank you for that because it's it's this thing where you're making work, no one's talking about you, or you're not finding your people or whatever it is. It's like as you touched on. It's like getting hate, getting love. It's a response.
Rob Lee:That means at least it's reaching people. The work is reaching people and the other things that come from it, the other types of support that that people deem the value. What some people might look at, the number of clicks or the number of shows or whatever it is.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Mhmm.
Rob Lee:You know, but starting off with something authentic. And as you were touching on earlier, you're exploring sort of what's in your head, you know, as far as the the direction that you're going so that must feel really, really good when someone connects to the work and they're like, yeah. I like this and this or Yeah. That's good. So the market is the other part of this this this question.
Rob Lee:So I think, like, you know, the the art market, and that's, again, you know, I'm I'm going from conversations I've had with folks of, man, I had a really great 2023, '20 '20 '4 was not as great or, you know, just sort of some of those shifts that happen with, you know, unique styles and new unique voices. And some people and folks I've seen, I follow, you know, that have been on a pod and you see, like, their work is drastically different. And it's a response to maybe some feedback that they've gotten to maybe shift in this direction. Or I've heard other artists who are told their work isn't this enough, isn't black enough to sell and so on. Could you talk about sort of what your relationship is with maybe the market and if it has any impact on how you go about your
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:your work? About to rum it. I have so much to say about this shit.
Rob Lee:I love your face was changing the whole time. Like, it was difficult, to let you finish your question.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:No. You there's no you this is a big no. You cannot you cannot respond to the market. People first of all, people there if they knew what they wanted and if they could create it, they would. So you're there to just do whatever you want.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:You have to be absolutely selfish in that you cannot look outside of yourself. Like, I mean, yes, of course, like you can look at other artists and of course, but I mean, you should never your art should never be a response to what you think people might want because you're going to be wrong. You're going to be wrong and everybody's going to see and it's going to reek of inauthenticity and people are not gonna buy. And I've learned that the hard way, but trust, like, just you wanna paint like a goddamn goldfish. Go ahead.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Do that. Like, just do whatever resonates with you. Somebody will find you and be like, what? Me too. And then they'll buy.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:So you cannot you cannot try and guess whatever what everybody is thinking. This is like such a trap. Yeah. Don't yeah. It's a big no no.
Rob Lee:No. It's it's really good. It's really good because, you know, you understand what you wanna make. You understand sort of your taste or how you wanna go about it. But
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:No. Not even you don't even I don't understand my own taste, actually. I don't I don't know exactly. Like, I'm just responding to what what is coming out, and I don't I try not to judge it. So whatever even if it's hard at times, I'm like, oh, no one's gonna borrow.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Like, those pieces are normally the ones that are are that sell. The ones that you think no one's gonna buy. So you really have to stop like judging yourself and just do the work and just let it exist in the universe and don't try to control the reaction people's reaction towards it. This is a lost, like, it's a, like, losing game.
Rob Lee:Yes. I see. I wanna It's a lost cause. It's a lost cause to and, you know, I I and I'll add this before I move into this this next question. You know, I did this I was teaching last year.
Rob Lee:I was teaching podcasting, which yeah. I'm professor Rob now, so that's that's
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:really professor.
Rob Lee:And, but but teaching that and, you know, teaching sort of young folks and people just becoming aware of what podcasting is. And, yeah, the sort of the advice I was sharing because, you know, here are questions of how do you monetize this? How do you make money from it? Do you make money from it? It's like, do you have a podcast first?
Rob Lee:Do you have something you're interested in talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Sort of do you have a perspective? Like, it's akin to what is your art about versus I don't have any art, but I wanna know how to sell it before I have anything.
Rob Lee:It's like Yeah.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:You wanna make that You can be gallerist then. You can be a art dealer. Like you can't because then it's a trap. You're just gonna think about what people want. For some people that works.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:They're not attached to the work and they figured a formula out that works. For me, it it absolutely doesn't work. And it's it's been like, actually such a, like, it it made my my career, like, I I could have picked up way, way faster if I knew that the freshest piece of information. But now I know, and I'm I'm glad I I'm here to share with with aspiring artists or even working artists.
Rob Lee:Thank you. Yeah. So I'm really insightful. And, you know, I'm I guess I'm one of those peep well, I know that I'm one of those people that I just we're in I'm in The US. You're you're in Canada.
Rob Lee:I just came across your work. And I was like, she seems interesting. I wanna talk to her. Now we're talking for a second. So there you go.
Rob Lee:And so this is sort of the next to last question. And, again, in sort of these these insights and doing over 800 interviews, I I find that connection is crucial. Like, you know, if we had, like, a bad exchange or was a bad interview or if it's just something that felt like a waste of time, you wouldn't have said yes or I wouldn't even reached out or whatever it was. Right? And I read that, you know, being in community with artists, being able to have a friend that's art or have or be around people who are artists is is crucial in terms of fellowships, in terms of networking, in terms of commiserating, and building relationships in our world can be complex.
Rob Lee:Have what have you learned about forging, like, those genuine connections personally, professionally, as an artist?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Oh, boy. I don't really I'm I'm very I'm very ex like, I can be very extroverted. I can be, like, the center of, like, the attention in a room, but I'm also someone who just disappears, and doesn't talk to anyone for, like, long periods of time. So I don't really have, like, what you're you would describe it as, like, a art community. I have some friends here and there that I'm close to or not necessarily been close to that are artists.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:But I don't actually like go out to every opening. I don't try to network. I, this is just not my style. I don't when I go after things, it's like, it doesn't people don't really respond very well to that. I just have to let people come to me basically.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:And, that works just better even with galleries. That's not for everybody. So, But for me, like, galleries, if if they like the work, they'll see me. And I trust in that, and that's just how it naturally happens. But as soon as I reach out and I'm trying to it's like, it's not it's not right for my my energy, and it just doesn't really work that way for me.
Rob Lee:That's that's that's a good that's a good distinction. I've tried to do a bit more of that because I realized I can be a bit sensitive to some of the things that are around. It's just people are kinda untied and stuff, and I try to limit my exposure to it. And, you know, where I'm at, where I'm based, it's not huge, but it's just like, hey. I know you.
Rob Lee:I could be in a room with, like, 10 people. I'm a six foot four dude with a beard. You've done an interview with me. You know what I mean? And I can be in a room and people act like they've never met me before.
Rob Lee:And it happens a lot. So instead of having this weird perspective that, okay. I guess you hate me or whatever the thing is, I just try not to even sort of reach out. And even from the the work perspective, I don't I don't and not to brag, but it's like I don't have any issues finding guests. Sometimes I'm kinda turning folks away, not not out of, like, disinterest.
Rob Lee:It's just more so I'm doing this specific thing right now.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. And that's the best problem you can have. So yeah.
Rob Lee:Yeah.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:As soon as you can start saying no to things when you're working in a creative field, this is when you're like, okay. I've I've I've prayed for that. And, like, at some point in my life to be able to say no or not be able to just have because you're just you don't have time. So that's a good thing.
Rob Lee:Yeah. Alright. So, what I want to do next is go into rapid fire, and then we can close out on sort of some some upcoming stuff or what have you in these these last moments. So I got three I got three rapid fire questions for you.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Thank you.
Rob Lee:You shouldn't be you're a pro at this. You're a veteran. You've earned the badge. So here's the first one. What you what is the what's a strange or unexpected compliment you've received about your work?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I can't I can't answer this fast. I have to like think so.
Rob Lee:You got, you got rush here. It's just you're good.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Okay. Okay. Okay. You were saying rapid fire question. Okay.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Strange. Okay. Yeah. I know. My mom my mom is like, okay.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:That's in French, but she would say something like, And that that basically means, oh, that's that's interesting.
Rob Lee:A shit. What the hell? Like, what are you on?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:And that's that's the cutest. So that would be my mom. My mom went.
Rob Lee:That's great. That's great.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah.
Rob Lee:What what you're doing so they're weird. Moms are good for that because I'm Yeah. You know, I'm a weird I've done a pod done podcasting for a long time and Yeah. I remember when I got this this tattoo, it's an oni. And my mom was like, that's kinda interest.
Rob Lee:Is that a devil? That's interesting. Oh, wow. You got that on your arm. Oh.
Rob Lee:Yeah.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I love it. We love mom.
Rob Lee:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. This this one is and this one is probably gonna be as hard or maybe easy because, you know, you're painting, you know, some things.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah.
Rob Lee:If you could only paint with three colors for a year, which are the three colors you're choosing?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Oh, that's so easy.
Rob Lee:See?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Because because it's there's three primary colors. So I choose these three primary colors, and then I can mix them and I can do any colors. But can I mix them? Am I not not allowed to mix them? Because, like, that's
Rob Lee:You artists. Gosh. You always always like, I saw make my own rules here. No. That's fine.
Rob Lee:That's a good point. That's a good point. Alright. So here here's the last one. Here's the last one for you.
Rob Lee:And this one I'm really happy about. If you suddenly became allergic to making art, what career would you jump into with confidence?
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Like, art as a visual arts or all arts?
Rob Lee:All art. Like, you can't do anything creative. None of that. Like, yeah. I do this side project.
Rob Lee:It's like, no. You're all creative talent is at you. Sneeze, sneeze, sneeze.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Okay. Okay. Okay. I do something with my hands. Like, I do like construction work or something.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I don't know. I do something that like, because this is also like, you need to be creative to come up with stuff, to build stuff. So I I think I do that and that's not considered art, but maybe I'd get away with it.
Rob Lee:I'm listening again with these rules. It's like, yeah. I'll be a sort of an architect. That's like, moving towards design. I see.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I'm I'm pretend to be a construction worker. I could play the part. Okay.
Rob Lee:Yeah. You you have a hoodie on currently, so that makes sense.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. And I drive a truck. Yeah. I'm
Rob Lee:just waiting for the hard hat to pop on. So so, you know, I'd be remiss if I didn't give you sort of the space and opportunity to share any details, of upcoming shows. This is gonna be a March episode, so, you know, it'll be closer to, you know, your April show. So feel free to share any details that you have of what's coming up in 2025 and then we'll wrap up.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. Okay. So there's, Arc Enemies, in Philadelphia in on the April 3. And I'm gonna be there. So if you're in Philadelphia, you can come say hi.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I'm I'm very nice. I say hi to everyone. And, I take the time to speak to everyone who who comes and talks to me. Second thing is that I'm actually, working on releasing a course on, oil painting, portrait painting. So I've been asked so many times by so many people, if I could do a class while it's happening and I'm collaborating with, with, with someone well, not someone, but, I mean, a company that only deals with that only does that.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:So that will be available, early May. So you'll get everything from, like, how to mix colors to how like, everything, how how I prep my canvas, how I use my brushes, how I direct photo shoots, how I choose the photos. Like, it's literally from a from a to z. So everything covered. So this, you will not wanna miss.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:And then I just, was talking to my gallery in New York and we're cooking something. I don't have any dates or any details for that, but this is gonna be New York, and it's gonna be end of the summer. So I'll be there as well. I love going to New York. So yeah.
Rob Lee:That is amazing. And con congratulations and continued success.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Thank
Rob Lee:you. And, what I would like to do in these final moments is, thank you for coming on. And could you share with the folks where they can stay up to date with all things you, social media, website, all that good stuff? The floor is yours.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Yeah. So, my social media, Roxy Peroxide, Roxy with a y, Peroxide with a y. And, yeah, that's pretty much it. You should get on my mailing list if you want previews. You can DM DM me with your email, and I'll add you.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:I don't post very much on Instagram because my account has been flagged. So yeah. Interestingly enough. So I'm gonna try and start making moves, on different platforms and build a solid mailing list where I'll this is what I'm gonna be prior for Okay. My English and my my French Yes.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:Thank you. So that's what I'm gonna be doing. But I'm always on Instagram. But yeah. And I answer all my DMs unless they're crazy.
Roxanne Sauriol Hauenherm:So just to behave, I should answer you.
Rob Lee:And there you have it, folks. I wanna again thank Roxy Peroxide for coming back onto the podcast and catching up with me. And for, Roxy Peroxide, I am Rob Lee saying that there's art, culture, and community in and around your neck of the woods. You've just gotta look for it.
